Curse

ideologue · May 11, 2007, 12:22 PM // 12:22

me and two guildies killed the rotscale a while back with just us three.... in normal mode of course. (and we forgot grenth balanced on the warrior and charge didn't really help against Rotscale... at all)
hardmode? hmm maybe 5 people would do?

but i don't know, my pve skills might have degenerated to nothingness after two months of pvping/inactivity.

Numa Pompilius · May 11, 2007, 12:22 PM // 12:22

How about a bonded dervish with Vow of Silence as tank?

SirJackassIII · May 11, 2007, 12:38 PM // 12:38

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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

How about a bonded dervish with Vow of Silence as tank?

Would die to degen from Incendiary. VoS prevents spells cast on you, including those of yourself and those of your allies, so there's only a small window (1/4 second) when VoS is off and needs to be reapplied to get healed, unless you want to keep it open and probably get slammed by spells.

Corinthian · May 11, 2007, 12:40 PM // 12:40

3 choking gas rangers + 5 touch rangers = win

zwei2stein · May 11, 2007, 12:56 PM // 12:56

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Originally Posted by SirJackassIII

Would die to degen from Incendiary. VoS prevents spells cast on you, including those of yourself and those of your allies, so there's only a small window (1/4 second) when VoS is off and needs to be reapplied to get healed, unless you want to keep it open and probably get slammed by spells.

He could be still healed by signets, shouts/chants/echoes, rt group heals, LOD or HP ....

keeping VOS tank up is matter of correct teambuild and can be part of soemthing like this:

D/W tank with tactics investment (shields up, heal sig, WYS) and Reap Impurities.

P/X - 3x attack skill + sig of synergy/anthem of flame/finale of retoration/they are on fire. (9 in resto will do)

Rt - chaneleer + two channeling spirits + feast of souls

Mo - LOD + Sig of Rejuv + SIG of Devotion added to your normal healer build.

Bonder

2x SF ele

R/W with flurry, BHA, Apply poison, etc ...

Even with VOS, this tank can be moderatelly easy to keep up.

tuna-fish_sushi · May 11, 2007, 01:18 PM // 13:18

Yey Wastrol's Worry time! On hardmode it lasts even shorter? Instant 60+ damage mabye throw in some Echo/Arcane Echo and of course energy management would be required.

Skuld · May 11, 2007, 01:31 PM // 13:31

Grenth's balance ftw?

moko · May 11, 2007, 01:59 PM // 13:59

the ideas in this thread are getting kind of funny.

by the way, you can easily lure most of the guards around him or kill them from range, if not just charge in and run back after each kill.

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Spirit Bond does not work on reducing Shadow Damage.

??? Spirit Bond does not reduce any damage, lol. it heals you if you take more than 60 damage. OO

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3 choking gas rangers + 5 touch rangers = win

i assume you're going to die before reaching him though.

icymanipulator · May 11, 2007, 02:07 PM // 14:07

Winter + Spinal Shivers...no More FoC which is his most devastating single skill and he will spam the hell out of it.

Neo Nugget · May 11, 2007, 02:17 PM // 14:17

spinal shiver=good
ANY enchants= baaaaad

When I kill him in normal mode, we usually have a tank, then the nukers do the rest.

TiNkLeR · May 11, 2007, 02:44 PM // 14:44

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Originally Posted by fenix

lmao, I know an even funnier build:

W/X - tanking, 0 dmg (has to be VERY good at aggroing)
E/Mo - SF Ele
E/Mo - SF Ele
E/Mo - SF Ele
E/Mo - SF Ele
E/Mo - SF Ele
Monk
Monk

GAME OVER. Just aggro, and explode stuff.

It worked, thanks.

fenix · May 11, 2007, 03:14 PM // 15:14

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Originally Posted by TiNkLeR

It worked, thanks.

No problem

Basically, if people can run that in HA and GvG, and rip teams apart (who have smart healers, smart players etc), then in PvE, it'd be even easier, as things don't react like humans do. So a lot of the gimmicky HA/GvG builds would probably tear apart Rotscale with a few changes.

Skyy High · May 11, 2007, 03:31 PM // 15:31

You know what I find funny? People acting like they're elite PvE players when they don't even know how prot spirit and spirit bond work.

Also, I wasn't aware that a war's extra armor would be helpful against degen, shadow damage, and life steal, but hey, what do I know.

teenchi · May 11, 2007, 03:55 PM // 15:55

Try
3 rangers with broadhead arrow and have them time it so he's constantly dazed.
1 nuker
4 monks, 1 heal, 1 prot and 2 smiters

Caleb · May 11, 2007, 04:04 PM // 16:04

Flames, personal insults, and posts that fail to contribute to the intent of the thread have been removed.
There are a lot of people that have difficulty with Rotscale in hard mode, and it would be nice to have a thread where ideas/builds that work are being discussed in a positive light.

Try to keep on track, please?

Lucifer PVP · May 11, 2007, 04:42 PM // 16:42

Guild group did it with two heros, just have patience and ya bunching up isn't the best idea

fenix · May 11, 2007, 04:49 PM // 16:49

For the record, <3 Caleb

Regarding Rotscale:

Basicallly, you don't want to over-think it. You just want a couple skills to shut him down, a couple skills to protect yourself, and then damage. You also have to work in a skills to fight the way there. Just look at the wiki, and make a list of stuff that you have to counter, and see what skills you'll need to do it.

Lord Natural · May 11, 2007, 05:32 PM // 17:32

o.O what's all the fuss in this thread about? It's one caster, with no evades, and no monk support.

1. Kill his guards without agroing him.
2. Cast spellbreaker on a BHA ranger or headbutt+plague touch warrior.
3. Have them run in and daze him.
4. Kill Rotscale

upier · May 11, 2007, 05:50 PM // 17:50

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Originally Posted by Xenex Xclame

I would dump the mesmers, what were they running?Shutdown? don't think its worth it, I think the normal rotscale group should work with some adjustments,but i really don't know, i tried it too a few days ago , just for fun, we simply got owned :|

ohh come on!

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Originally Posted by Wiki

Rotscale uses its skills with a halved casting time and recharge, approximately double the power and like all Tyria bosses, hexes and conditions cast on it only last one half of their normal duration.

can you say WW spam?
and something insanely sweet are Larceny/Thievery. we ran this on the all-mesmer trips and boy was the boy in some pain!

Sir Skullcrasher · May 11, 2007, 06:15 PM // 18:15

Just wondering, could you possibly bring in a mesmer and interrupt half his skills thus making it easier to attack him?